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Jesus(TM) points and on top of it all, t-shirts depicting our lord Jesus(TM).


If anyone would look at this 'fad' you and your peers have created out of a business perspective, they surely would come to the conclusion that you have succeeded, in making a sell able brand at the least. I'm surprised you are not on your way buying airtime on TV. Or at least having billboards up, depicting our lord in (if possible) more demeaning ways.
Of course, then you would need more public support, not solely people that like T-shirts of the 'Jesus shaves' variant.
Another strategy other then just pumping out posters of Star Wars and our lord might be handy too.


Do you know about pedophilia, racism, drunk driving, pro-abortion/anti-abortion and McDonald's ?
How about AIDS or awareness for less common diseases that currently don't get enough funding.
Global warming, Green peace, Communism, George W Bush, cheaper Internet, oil, Africa, Love peace and understanding.

I 'listed' these out of order, they are to illustrate a point i am making. ( I'm more of a George W Bush supporter/'womens right to choose'/McDonald's individual myself. )

I'm sure one would say these issues, some more then others, needs to find the "spotlight" and be brought up to attention then they are getting now. Example 1,2,3,4 :
1. Do the America a favor and raise public support for our churches !
2. You could spread the message the our president George W Bush is the best that has happened to America in a long time.
3. Your 'organization' could also argue that McDonald's cause our children to be fat !
4. Why not commit your 'organization' to support our troops overseas, by writing them letters/Emails.

The sky is the limit. I'm asking you and your peers why not do something that may perhaps make a difference?
Gather your community to aid parents that cant get food on the table, through your schools, workplaces or churches, or "just" spread the words of the bible to every corner.

Your 'organization' ( group would have been a better word ) have gathered under one roof, advocating for Christianity, that's super and you do it on grass root level, and I admire that.

But wasting all this talent, resources, trying to make our young citizens believe that Star Wars is evil.
I can see your goal, but what is the point? What meaning will this have in the long run?
By selling T shirts, that are in my opinion, depicting Jesus in a disrespectful manner, and then causing scenes and small protests. ( I have witnessed it, both in America and in Europe ). What do you hope to achieve?

There is much more to be done in the world and in our America, why even prioritize Star Wars to such a degree of importance in the first place ?

I'll finish here, i got convinced a mere minute ago that it would be pointless to go on, there's no point arguing or even talk common sense with your group.
Know what convinced me? My good friend defined 'Internet trolling' for me, i looked it up.
And hey, there it is:

" In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding. They may also plant images and data on networks that others may find disturbing (usually indirectly relating to the individual in person) in order to cause confrontation. "
- Wikipedia

Your are 'trolls', just not in a virtual community.

I will pray for all of you, and that you will regain your faith in our lord soon, and not continue to solely use him as a launchpad for your cause.
Jesus is not a gimmick, even though when you were growing up people were trying to make him one.

-Jack, 39, Swedish/American
Reader on 07.13.07 @ 10:24 PM PST [link]

Monday, July 30th

Your ministry!


I love star wars and you guys are major crackpots. And if i do go to hell for likeing star wars then ill see ya there, cause gods gonna send u ta hell for being stupid...

Thanks

Drag0nMaster79

P.S. Nice youtube vids lmao!
[Jesus Points: 2 (+/-)] Reader on 07.30.07 @ 10:49 AM PST [link]


Wednesday, July 11th

Satan's a tool?


I must object, not because I'm a star wars fan, but because the creator of the site I linked from seems to me to have watched the movies once and jumped immediately to the worst possible conclusion, overwhelmingly tainted by their faith.
I will not mock anyone for having something I do not, i.e faith, but righteous fire has to be exactly that, righteous.
These six small films (more 4, 5 and 6 than the prequels as they are pap), are a christian allegory; at no point in these screenplays is the idea of evil put forward as anything but a force to be battled, the pyhrric victory concluding the third film marks a coming darkness, yes, but only so it can be defeated. Don't forget that the protagonists of these movies are noble, honourable, self-sacrificing, brave, moral and work on the side of rightness. The 'rebellion' is faith, the empire 'satan' (I will not capitalise satan cos, as I said, me+faith=nope) and while the forces of evil triumph in some small ways throughout the piece, does that mean the entire film is a tool of satan? Does 'good' triumph in every situation?
I came from a religious background and was a churchgoer from an early age, though not through choice, I decided my own path when I was old enough to understand what was being preached; the opinion of the person who created the site I linked from attacked something they didn't fully understand, launching slurs and telling us all that if we watched this film we were damned and we worked for satan; they were trying to instil fear in people, to 'turn' them to their cause by corrupting an innocent piece of cinematography which, ultimately, actually supports right thinking and is an allegory for faith... wait... trying to corrupt something which tries to instil the values of christianity through a medium the young will listen to... hmmm.
night
AgnosticApe
[Jesus Points: 4 (+/-)] Reader on 07.11.07 @ 07:03 PM PST [link]


Wednesday, June 6th

They are only movies


Guys

Let me begin by saying I am catholic, I read the Bible, I go to mass, I am a lector and an Usher in my parish, I work a soup kitchen, I volunteer at church, yet I am a Star Wars fan.

Do you honestly think that God will look at someone who enjoys movies because they are entertaining, but if they do good works and spread the news will he condemn them to hell bacuse they watch movies?

I think there is a phrase that says... DO NOT JUDGE LEST YE BE JUDGED!!! It is God's place to judge us how do we know, And the Force is never said to be better than God, it is said to be a unifying force, like faith in the end though good triumphs the evil is destroyed in a fiery pit, kinda like in Revelation 20:3. Good, Right, Peace, and Love triumph in the end, not R2- DEMON2.
[Jesus Points: 0 (+/-)] Reader on 06.06.07 @ 06:35 PM PST [link]


Sunday, May 13th

YOU ARE RIGHT!


Hello i know what your saying is real i found out some years ago lisening from this ex-wican john todd see his story bellow, I just wanted you to be informed about some faith resistants sites fight satan and the new world order.

http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/

here is my site http://truthoutlander.magnify.net/

Let me know if i can help with anything , Please lisen to these mp3 files from 1974 when john todd was warning churches on the release of starwars...

During the early 1970s, John Todd was one of a handful of speakers making the rounds in evangelical Christian circles warning young people against the occult., Todd was a Satanic high priest his allegations that Satanists were taking over America. In 1973 he has been under attack for years ... Ther are many site on web mostly Wikipedia trying to discredit him but listen to his audio recordings from the 70s!!!! that ties all todays events together...

John Todd's testimonial of his experience in witchcraft and of the Illuminati
John Todd

ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE I GET STARTED, it never seems to fail that when I'm done a few of my brothers and sisters in the Lord have fear in their hearts. There is no reason to have fear in your heart. It seems like every time we talk about the Enemy, Christians become afraid rather than stirred up and fighting mad! So I just ask that if you have this fear in your hearts when this is over, that you just simply get in your prayer chamber or up front or someplace alone with the Lord and discuss the matter with Him.
THERE IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEVIL; HE WAS DEFEATED 2,000 YEARS AGO! And that's why I'm here; he was defeated 2,000 years ago! I think the thing that made me the most mad when I got saved was that I'd served somebody since I was a child, for over 20 years, that was defeated over 2,000 years ago! And I guess the only reason why I served him was that I didn't realize who he was until I got saved, it took that enlightenment.

AS BROTHER BERRY PREACHED THIS MORNING ON THE DEVIL BLINDING GOD'S PEOPLE'S EYES and THE WORLD'S EYES, take it for a fact, he can do it! For some 20 years I served him as a priest and as a high priest, and later as a Grand Druid and had many thousands of people serving him under me, and never once did I even realize who I was serving.

THERE WERE MANY THINGS THAT I LEARNED IN WITCHCRAFT, I'm not going to tell you what they were, but there were many things that I learned and many things that I taught as a standard teaching in Witchcraft. As you go through apprenticeship or as you go through what we call the "Outer Court," you are told to do things and you don't ask why you do them. If you do ask why do them, they tell you that you're being naughty and that you shouldn't ask, mainly because they don't know!

I NEVER DID KNOW WHY I WAS DOING THE THINGS I WAS DOING OR WHY I WAS TEACHING THE THINGS I WAS TEACHING. They worked, so we did them. After I got saved, it took salvation for me to find out why they worked. And I guess after knowing that, there is no way you can go back to what you came out of. Very quickly tonight--well, I can't be really quickly, but I'll try--I want to give my testimony, and then I want to turn it over for questions and answers.

I'VE LEARNED THE HARD WAY, AFTER FIVE YEARS, and IT'S NORMAL FOR ME TO SAY THE THINGS THAT I SAY, but it's astounding for you to listen to them. And I realize that when the meetings are over that many things I say are strange to Christians. Most of you grew up in Christian homes, or even if you were in the World, you were not very close to what I was into, so when I say things, to me they are everyday things.

I GUESS THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SUCH A SUCCESSFUL MINISTRY WITH THE PEOPLE IN DRUGS and THE PEOPLE IN THE OCCULT, because they tried to tell Christians for years the things they'd been into and the things they've experienced, and they look at them like they're crazy. Then I come along and I say, "Oh! Oh, sure I'll listen to you, I've been there!" I know the same things, and I'll sit there and I'll listen and they find it very outstanding that I believe in them, because I've experienced them too.

SO I DON'T GASP AT SOMEBODY WHEN THEY TELL ME THEY'VE SEEN DEMONS or floated things through the air or received answers on Ouija boards or made people do their own will by spells, because I was there and I know it's so, but at the same time I know how weak it is compared to what I have now.

WE WENT TO ST. PAUL WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THEIR CONVENTION THIS YEAR, which they called off. They're having it right now in Washington, D.C., this is the last night of it, and it was in all the front pages of the newspapers down there. Christians throughout the United States say, "You don't really expect us to believe that witches are that organized!"--No, they've just got Senators and Congressmen and top witches down there all in one convention, they're not organized, not at all!

BUT ANYWAY, WE WERE THERE, and MANY WITCHES CAME UP TO ME and ASKED ME WHY I WOULD BECOME A CHRISTIAN. See, witches have the opinion that Christians are either the most evil thing that ever lived or they're the most foolish people that ever lived. They wanted to know why I would become a Christian. I said, "Because I'm more powerful now than I was when I was a witch!"--That's not the real reason, but I said it in words they would understand. And they couldn't grasp that. I know how they feel.

WHEN I WAS IN WITCHCRAFT I NEVER CONSIDERED CHRISTIANITY UNTIL THE NIGHT I GOT SAVED. I never once considered it was an answer, I never considered that Jesus was an answer and thought that the things in the Christian church were foolish, at the least, and dangerous at the most--and I guess they are dangerous to Witchcraft. But to explain what I'm talking about very quickly:

I COME FROM A FAMILY CALLED THE COLLINS. Some of them on this side of the Atlantic Ocean from England have changed their name to Todd back prior to the Civil War. That's not to say that all Collins are Todds or the family that I came from, but this family brought Witchcraft to the United States.

I WAS IN PHILADELPHIA THE OTHER NIGHT and I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT, but after I left there the newspaper decided that their greatest campaign would be against me, and many things I said in my testimony they said they checked out and weren't so. It's funny, we checked them out and they still were so!--Like many things that I'll mention tonight.

WE EVEN WENT AS FAR AS TO SAY THAT WITCHCRAFT STARTED OUTSIDE OF SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS, and EVEN NAMED THE BAY THAT THE WITCHES LANDED AT that they named after the head witch, my ancestor, Frances Collins, and the newspaper said that place didn't exist. It exists. We looked at the map and it was still there! We don't quite understand quite what they were up to, but I guess they confused enough people to disregard it. We were wondering when people were going to get around to this, but anyway, I came from the Collins Family.

LET ME QUICKLY REMIND YOU, NO WITCHES WERE EXECUTED IN SALEM. There will be a book coming out shortly on this from Chick Publications. Except for one prostitute, everybody executed in Salem were Christians, and they were tried and convicted by a jury and by a pastor who was not a pastor but a slave trader hired by the Collins. The church was built by the Collins and the jury were all members of the Collins' church. Needles to say, they weren't Christians, they were Witches. We went back there and researched it!

BUT TO GO ON QUICKLY SO I DON'T CONFUSE YOU TOO MUCH ... OF COURSE I'VE ALREADY DESTROYED YOUR HIGH SCHOOL HISTORY LESSON, I have a habit of doing that. I'll destroy more than that before the night's over! But when I was a youngster I started practising Witchcraft. I cast my first spell when I was eight, and I started studying for the Priesthood when I was 13. I was asked to join the Outer Court of the coven there in Columbus, Ohio, where I grew up, and at 14 I was initiated.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS BEFORE I GO ON, WHEN THE SERVICE IS OVER I WOULD BE GLAD TO TALK WITH ANY MASONS PRESENT, and I will compare my initiation to Witchcraft word for word, action for action, with yours. They are identical without change, and I'll be glad to discuss the matter with you.

AFTER THAT AT 18 I WAS INITIATED A HIGH PRIEST. This made me the ruling pastor, more or less. You see in Witchcraft, church is a little different, only the ministers meet, and they meet once a month. The congregation doesn't even know who is in it. They only go to their particular priest and ask for a favor, they never come together. But at 18 I was made the High Priest.

THAT MADE ME DRAFT-EXEMPT FROM THE U.S. ARMY OR FROM THE U.S. MILITARY SERVICE, because all of the denominations or Brotherhoods of Witchcraft are Federally recognized tax deductible churches and therefore their ministers do not have to serve! I stayed 4-D status, but a lot of us at that time thought it was important to get Witchcraft started at the different military bases, so we enlisted anyway, and that was in 1968.

WHEN I WAS DISCHARGED IN 1970 THERE WAS A COVEN IN EVERY MILITARY BASE IN THE UNITED STATES and EUROPE IN ALL FOUR BRANCHES OF THE SERVICE! So it grows very quickly. But I served Vietnam, flew back and re-enlisted for six years and served 30 days of my six-year term, went to Germany for that time. And up until this time I thought Witchcraft was just like being a Baptist or being a Catholic, it was a religion. I didn't realize there was anything to it except Witchcraft, and this is where most Witches are at. In fact at this time I believed in a godhead system of gods and goddesses and believed in it very devoutly, I'd been raised in it all my life. I believed in the psychic powers and that's all I believed in.

SO WHILE I WAS IN GERMANY ONE NIGHT, AFTER TAKING SOME DRUGS and DOING A LOT OF DRINKING, I GOT IN A SHOOT-OUT in the middle of downtown Stuttgart with an officer, and the officer got killed. Now the Army has a strict no-no about shooting officers, they don't like it, so they placed me in solitary confinement, and there I am, waiting for Leavenworth more or less.

WE'D ALREADY OFFERED A PLEA TO THE JUDGE THAT WE WOULD PLEAD GUILTY IF HE WOULD GIVE ME 30 YEARS and CALL IT QUITS, and he tore it up and laughed at us. So I was pretty sure what was in for me, and I just sat there. And eventually through a riot that had happened at the stockade just a few days prior and a man being placed in solitary confinement with me and then released from the stockade, I got word back to the U.S. by phone of the predicament I was in.

I HAD BEEN IN GERMANY SUCH A LITTLE TIME THAT I HADN'T HAD TIME TO START A COVEN IN STUTTGART, and I had no way of getting the word out. So the man placed a phone call to Los Angeles, collect, to my foster mother and told the predicament I was in. I had told him to tell her to cast a spell on the jury so they'd think I was a real nice person, and that's all I thought they would do. I'd seen spells like this work many times--I've seen them work recently many times in courts--but I was not expecting what took place!

ABOUT THREE DAYS AFTER THE MAN MADE THE PHONE CALL, MY CELL DOOR OPENED and THERE STOOD A SENATOR and A U.S. CONGRESSMAN, a couple of Generals and an Honorable Discharge. The Honorable Discharge gave no reason as to why I was being discharged; I just had an Honorable Discharge like I'd served all my time. I had all my time and rank and grade, even my top-secret security clearance.

I WAS TOLD THAT MY COURT-MARTIAL RECORDS HAD BEEN DESTROYED and that my military file would be placed with a top-secret security clerk so nobody could get into it, and that was the end of it. The Senator and the Congressman left, I went to Ft. Dix and drew the rest of my papers and stuff, and headed for Columbus, Ohio, scratching my head the whole time wondering what type of spell was so good that it had Senators and Congressmen doing its bidding!

I STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON, SO I ARRIVED IN OHIO and I AGAIN BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS THE DAY I ARRIVED THERE. I was told they had been expecting me and here was an envelope with a one-way first-class ticket to Kennedy Airport in New York City, $2,000 for spending money, and I was to get on the next flight and they would make a phone call and tell them I was coming. That was fine except I wanted to know who "them" were. They said I would find out when I arrived, so I got on the plane, took off, landed at the airport and sure enough, somebody was waiting to meet me.

--A PERSON WHOSE BOOKS I HAD READ and WHO I HAD THOUGHT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST WIZARDS, MALE WITCHES, THAT HAD EVER LIVED, and I felt very privileged that I could be staying with him learning more about Witchcraft from him. Now I gave his name--which I'm going to give a minute--in Philadelphia last Sunday night. I even gave his job at the time that I was staying with him, except the newspapers called the university that he was supposed to be working for and the university denied he'd ever been there.

IT'S FUNNY, I EVEN SAT IN HIS CLASSES AT THE UNIVERSITY. They have a way of covering things up. He has his own college now for Witches, and his name is Dr. Raymond Buckland, and at that time he was head of the Anthropology Department at Columbia University, although Columbia University likes to say that he never existed now.

BUT I LEARNED WITH HIM FOR AWHILE, LEARNED A LITTLE MORE IN MARYLAND, WENT TO CALIFORNIA and STUDIED SOME MORE. During this process I began to learn what most Witches don't know, and that is that the gods they've been worshipping don't exist, that they're imitated by what we call "familiar spirits" or spirit guides, demons--witches don't call them demons, they like to call them spirit guides--and that there is only one god and his name is Lucifer.

NOW THIS WAS A SHOCKING THING TO ME SINCE I WAS RAISED TO BELIEVE THAT THE DEVIL DIDN'T EXIST. You see witches aren't Satanists, they don't believe in Satan, and I was quickly explained to that Lucifer was a good god and not an evil god, and that Jesus was the imitator. So I learned, and I learned many things, both of Witchcraft, and I also learned why the Senators and Politicians were there!

THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE WE WERE THE RELIGION OF A POLITICAL ORGANIZATION CALLED THE ILLUMINATI, and I was told all about the Illuminati and its history. I was schooled in the things that it had done, and the things that it was going to do, and the things that I was going to do. And before I go on, I want to show you a few things that will help explain. (Chartssmile

THIS THING YOU SEE UP HERE IS ON THE BACK OF YOUR ONE-DOLLAR BILL, and WHAT IT IS IS THE SEAL OF THE ILLUMINATI. America tells us it's the reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States, the only problem is that the United States has never sealed one document with it, ever, and never intends to! It was in existence before the United States was in existence, and I invite you, if you know your Latin, to look at your one-dollar bills later, and down at the bottom you will see some Latin.

IT SAYS: "THIS NEW ORDER THAT BEGAN 1776"--THAT MEANS NOT THE 4th OF JULY, BUT MAY 1st, 1776, THE CREATION DAY OF THE ILLUMINATI. It consists of three pyramids in a sphinx, which I'll go through very quickly. We've put a few blocks up here, but there are hundreds of blocks in each pyramid. This is the political organisation. This is the middle pyramid. This is some of the political and police organisations that they use, and we've put up ones that mainly concern the United States.

ON THE TOP OF EACH PYRAMID YOU WILL SEE A CAPSTONE WITH AN EYE IN IT. The capstone is the Rothschild Family or Tribunal that rules the Illuminati, they were the creators of it. The eye is Lucifer, their god and their voice. The first 3 top blocks are on every pyramid. (See above photo.)

THE TOP BLOCK IS WHAT I WAS INITIATED INTO, THE COUNCIL OF 13 CALLED THE GRAND DRUID COUNCIL. They only take orders from the Rothschilds and nobody else. They're their private priesthood. The Council of 33 is directly under them, that is the 33 highest Masons in the World. The Council of 500, some of the richest people in the World--there are 500, actually, some of the richest people and conglomerates in the World--it's their real power as I'll show you in a minute.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SEE MUCH OF THE WRITING ON THIS, BUT THIS IS THE ORGANISATION OF WITCHCRAFT. The Golden Dawn is the 4th block up there, and it's the Rothschild's private coven. The Aquarian Arts Festival is the organization that ties all of the Occult Brotherhoods together in St. Paul, The Witches Church of America I was a member of. The Church of All Worlds is located in St. Louis. These are denominations like Northern Baptist, Southern Baptists, Independent Baptists, etc.

THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF CHURCHES, THE SATANIC BROTHERHOOD OF AMERICA, SCIENTOLOGY, UNITY, is the main platform for Witches to be speakers at towards what they consider to be Christian people. The Church of Wicca is another denomination; it's in Greenfield, North Carolina.

THE AQUARIAN ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS FORMED BY ONE OF THE GRAND DRUIDS, ISAAC BONOVITZ, and the American Civil Liberties Union. Its purpose is to pass laws and to sue Christian churches in Federal court for defaming Witches and the Occult, and they have been winning millions of dollars in the Federal courts.

THE GARNARIAN BROTHERHOOD IS THE TRADITIONAL WITCHCRAFT IN ENGLAND. The Order of the Rose Cross--another word for it is Rosicrucians--they are a sacrifice order. And the Holy Order of the Garter is another traditional English Witchcraft group. (Pointssmile


Jack chick (Chick Publications) to this day still stands by John Todd and his story. Recently the church has recovered and release John military record noting his time in Germany as fact.

Transcript of 1977 John Todd speech

Part 1
http://www.textfiles.com/occult/jtc1.txt

Audio file http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt/Todd_1a.mp3


Part 2
http://www.textfiles.com/occult/jtc2.txt


Audio file http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jtTodd_2a.mp3

Part 3
http://www.textfiles.com/occult/jtc3.txt


Audio file http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt/Todd_2b.mp3

Part 4
http://www.textfiles.com/occult/jtc4.txt


Audio file http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt/Todd_1a.mp3

Part 5
http://www.textfiles.com/occult/jtc5.txt


Audio file http://www.deeptruths.com/reduced_jt/Todd_1a.mp3

FROM JOHN TODD
[Jesus Points: 0 (+/-)] Reader on 05.13.07 @ 10:52 PM PST [link]